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Midnight08 · Oct 09, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

Same here, PuG over heroes just for the fact sometimes you get a PuG that knows the in and out of the mission and then the mission tends to fly by + you cant talk to heroes when you are laying face down in the grass waiting for a rez

Actually, you can do better than that. You have complete control of their actions using the hero panel and map controls. You could have them rez you when you feel it safe, or you could just use 1 to fight or have the monk run and then close in for rebirths.

Tien ak · Oct 09, 2006, 12:59 PM // 12:59

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Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

Tanking is not about builds, tanking is about positioning, pulling and careful control of aggro. If your monk can't keep a warrior alive - ditch him and get a not sucking one as even the Henchmen can keep a warrior alive.

Do i really have to comment on those? :/
Woot! I have healing hand... wait, shattered.
Woot! I have healing bre... shattered.
Woot! Healing hands again... wait, everyone is dead -.-

im not going to argue I know what works as I use it and it does work simple as that.

This thread is going nowhere and should be closed no one has said why there is going be discrimination just a bunch of mindless players having ago at a class.

Amity and Truth · Oct 09, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03

If (OutOfArguments($bullshit_statement)==1) { insert_personal_insults();}

gr3g · Oct 09, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

syntax error at - line 1, near ") {"
Execution of - aborted due to compilation errors.

Amity and Truth · Oct 09, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Grab a book about coding. Come back, re-read. Understand that your post is void.

gr3g · Oct 09, 2006, 01:17 PM // 13:17

No need. I just cut and pasted perl's output. If you are not able to spot your syntax error, it is you who needs to "grab a book about coding".

Amity and Truth · Oct 09, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

*shrugs*
I never said it was Perl.

Congratulations on using the one f*cked up language that insists on a rat tail of unneeded code gibberish. There is no syntax error in it if you use better languages.

Kais Unduli · Oct 09, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

lol, Perl

Anyway, I'm outfitting my heroes they way I want to them to play according to each of my professions. I'm pretty sure I'll be using at least 1 monk hero for each character, but I will probably not want to cater the way I've been playing because 1 person whom I've never played with before wants me to set up my team in a certain way.

Mordakai · Oct 09, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by Relambrien

A "perfect PuG", however, is not an oxymoron, because there is absolutely NO WAY it can make sense.

LOL. That was good, I have to admit...

Zinger314 · Oct 09, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by Tien ak

This thread is going nowhere and should be closed no one has said why there is going be discrimination just a bunch of mindless players having ago at a class.

To be fair, you are the only one with the problem.

So, I used a W/Mo as an example. Not a direct attack.

But, I still believe in the W/Mo stereotype, because it's undeniable.

I'll prove something to you, Tien ak: I'll create the build mentioned on the OP. I'll ask for a PuG. I'll let a W/Mo and his heroes join.

Then...I shall screenshot the disupte.

Tien ak · Oct 09, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

To be fair, you are the only one with the problem.

So, I used a W/Mo as an example. Not a direct attack.

But, I still believe in the W/Mo stereotype, because it's undeniable.

I'll prove something to you, Tien ak: I'll create the build mentioned on the OP. I'll ask for a PuG. I'll let a W/Mo and his heroes join.

Then...I shall screenshot the disupte.

I only said it was Ironic you were talking about discrimination yet you dicriminate against W/Mo.

And you can try and prove that your build will work but your jackass characters remark towards your build would never happen unless you put four warriors on you team...and if W/Mo is such a bad class why do you invite them anyway?

So to sum up your question to Hero Discrimination is the only discrimination there is going to be is against the Assasins and W/Mo as there so bad. And the truth of it all is people are arrogant for some reason they will say "don't put X and Y hero in cuz their noobs" and what do you do when they say that? kick em out your party more than likely they don't know what their doing grab a mature player (which is rare I know) or replace with hench, simple so there is no need to worry about it...to be honest it's simple common sence but meh.

Obviously this thread is going to have people like Amity and Truth who is going to just keep saying "W/Mo's are shit and there all noobs I hate Discrimating Wammo noobs!" but what the hell let him rant and rave all day for all I care. If you hate a class so much grab a hench of that class simple as that if thats not enough then you really don't have a reason to moan certianly when Nightfall comes out, heck you should be happy about it not complaining that other players won't agree with what you think is right, if your going to say "well you've been defending W/Mo..." that's beacuse im making a point, your all yelling and moaning about how W/Mo are Discrimating against whatever yet you do the exact the same...you say W/Mo are arse holes yet you call em Noobs Wammos etc.

Do you get what im trying to point out?

Malice Black · Oct 09, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Midnight08

Actually, you can do better than that. You have complete control of their actions using the hero panel and map controls. You could have them rez you when you feel it safe, or you could just use 1 to fight or have the monk run and then close in for rebirths.

True but you miss the point, if I dont know how to do a certain mission then a PuG will be my first choice, if I fail then I'll fall back to Heroes and give it a bash.

fatmouse · Oct 09, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by gr3g

No need. I just cut and pasted perl's output. If you are not able to spot your syntax error, it is you who needs to "grab a book about coding".

OH SHIT IT DOESNT WORK WITH MY FORTRAN COMPILER EITHER

masta46 · Oct 09, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

For me, using computers to play instead of real people is just weak. Where's the excitement in that? I don't see any fun in it whatsoever, whenever I use henchies I am just flatout bored. Yeah, it might be easier in some situations with this new hero thing, but its not like this is a hard game. Besides, when you use real people the drops are still going to be 10 times better. Frustration level might be increased a little, but in my opinion playing with yourself will get you nowhere. It's all about the PuGs or guilds for PvE. Maybe that's just cause I'm not as anal as most of you seem to be.

Omega X · Oct 09, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by masta46

For me, using computers to play instead of real people is just weak. Where's the excitement in that? I don't see any fun in it whatsoever, whenever I use henchies I am just flatout bored. Yeah, it might be easier in some situations with this new hero thing, but its not like this is a hard game. Besides, when you use real people the drops are still going to be 10 times better. Frustration level might be increased a little, but in my opinion playing with yourself will get you nowhere. It's all about the PuGs or guilds for PvE. Maybe that's just cause I'm not as anal as most of you seem to be.

I'd rather not try to do a mission 16 times with pugs when I can finish it once with henches.

TadaceAce · Oct 09, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

*cough* wammos suck *cough*, anyone who thinks otherwise... stay outta my group!

Actually with the addition of flail I can see decent pure warrior builds now for pve. Rez can come in handy on the warrior and stuff but only if you can create a decent build without the use of your secondary. Still any warrior using like... gladiators defense, healing breeze, healing hands, bonettis, riposte, deadly riposte, auspicious parry, and, most importantly, mending, should be shot... in both kneecaps. Sad but true 99% of the time the people using these skills are wammos... every once in a while you get the W/E using kinetic armor and armor of earth but those are at least kinda rare.

Gigashadow · Oct 09, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

A wammo with mainly attack skills, with the /mo for Rebirth (only) is fine. However, it's just not worth being a wammo, even to bring Rebirth for the team, because of too much discrimination -- so I just stick with W/N which is what I tend to use for PvP anyway. Also, PuGs aren't as good at removing conditions as Factions henchies, so plague touch is still a good investment for PvE PuGs.

Zolderick · Nov 08, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

yeah with the new system there is no need to ever pug again.

YunSooJin · Nov 08, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

lol unless you're a w/mo with warrior only skills + rebirth, yes, you probably are shit..hahahaha.

Kais Unduli · Nov 08, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Way to revive a dead thread.

Just curious, what do all of you people think is an acceptable warrior build for PvE? I usually play as a W/Mo for rebirth, and I usually bring along Mend Ailment because too many monks think only heal heal heal and don't bring any condition removal. That makes me a bad tank? Please, get over it.